bill-cosby-died-300x360111Don Lemon is on a mission. This time he has everyone’s favorite TV dad, Bill Cosby at his side.  Lemon and Cosby want African-Americans to handle their business, their kids and education. Cosby also labeled those people who get upset when the ills of the African-American community are put on front streets as “no-groes”.  During a recent interview with Lemon, Cosby offered some strong words to the “no-groes”.

From Mediate:

 In Saturday night’s interview, Lemon asked Cosby to reflect on the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington, and what kind of African American leaders are needed now.

“I think it has to come from the universities,” Mr. Cosby began. ” I think, women, strongly because when you see 70%, in research, that says they are the leaders of the household, what we need is for people to realize I want to raise my kid. I want to go back and get my three kids. I want to take on that responsibility. I want to love my children.”

He added that one of the sights he’d like to see more of is what he saw at the recent Essence Festival, “walking around to see, yeah, to see a black male with his child on the shoulders and holding.”

He also encouraged young people who might not be able to go to a prestigious college to “go to community college. Okay, you backed up and didn’t do well. You quit school but now you find you need that high school credential. Go to the community college.”

Cosby related the idea of personal responsibility to his own experience, adding that “At age 19 and a half, I knew I didn’t want to do certain things. It is not what they weren’t doing to me, it’s what I wasn’t doing. It’s a very simple thing.”

Later in the interview, Mr. Cosby talked about what he sees as an overemphasis on medicating juvenile inmates, versus counseling. “If you drug these people, and then you release them, and there’s no prescription for them to get to take to do the same thing, and they go back to the same place,” he said, adding “Now, about this time, this is when you hear the no-groes jump up and say ‘Why don’t you talk about the good things?’”

When Lemon asked, “Why is it so hard for some people to get that message, to hear that message, to receive that message, and without lashing out?”, Cosby said because “no-groes” are embarrassed.

Are there any “no-groes” reading right now?

I’m not sure if “no-groes” is a good term, but then I realize Cosby feels that he’s doing a service to the black community by speaking about its ills. But the thing is, what he’s saying isn’t anything new. Maybe Cosby and Lemon will form “New-Groe Super Team” and heal the world, one black person at a time.

 

Below is the full interview, the “no-groe” comments hit around the 4:30 mark, after talking about incarcerated juveniles.  

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  • diasporauk

    What makes me laugh is the way “good negros” talk about themselves.

    You’d think there’s a huge power and class gulf between them and so called pants saggers.

    That good negro is doing or getting something that pants sagger is missing out on by not following suit (clever huh? lol)

    Well, you’d be wrong if you thought that.

    good negro is as dependent on whites for her survival as her pants sagging counterpart.

    good negro is as subordinated by whites as her pants sagging counterpart.
    good negro

    good negro is as powerless before whites and just as vulnerable to their hostile vagaries as her pants sagging counterpart.

    good negro is as broke as her pant sagging counterpart, oftentimes broker.

    good negro is as clueless about how to improve her condition as her pants sagging counterpart, (with many honourable exceptions), tends to be.

    (note – I’m using “her” as generic person, male or female)

    good negro offers nothing but an example of bended knee accomodationism which no black man who respects himself has the kiss ass flexibility to mould himself to.

    Clowns need to shut up, nobody wants to be like YOU. What you got that somebody emulate? and anyway you’d get blown outtta the competition if we all went “act right/do white”. LMAO!

    I’ve never worn saggy pants and I’m long out of the saggy pants years and way into my grown ass man years . . . . .

    but I’m ordering 3 pairs from Ebay tonite to show my solidarity with the only people whose approval, respect and love still matters to me . . . .

    Young black people.

  • LemonNLime

    I think this goes beyond just “pulling up your pants”. There is a difference in values and culture that is rarely addressed. In my opinion, their is no “black community” because these values and the culture associated with these values create vastly different communities with similar skin tones. Families that maintain or are actively working toward “middle class” values (for lack of a better word) don’t need to hear this. They see a value in working hard, they see the value in education, they see the value in strong families and they instill these values in their kids. One can be of a lower economic class financial and work toward these values just like one can be rich and have low class values (ex: Miley Cyrus).

    Racism plays a part but it can’t be the blame for everything, at some point you have to take responsibility for your role in this cycle of bad decisions and try to break the trend. I say that because many black families that came from poor southern farming communities and poor manufacturing communities in the prior to the Civil RIghts era who dealt with REAL in your face racism, bombing churches, lynching, raping, killing kind of racism, and yet those families did what they had to do in order the provide a better life for the next generation and make sure these value were passed on; I’m sure many of us are the result of that. They didn’t let racism keep them from building strong, educated/skilled, proud families and communities. After what they went through, there are no excuses for much of the nonsense out here.

    Lastly, you aren’t going to save everyone. If someone is content living and dying in the hood, it doesn’t matter how many speeches you give them, they don’t care. I’m not wasting my time and efforts on those who won’t help themselves. However, I will gladly help and mentor black youth who are trying to do something with their lives and need a helping hand. I think that is really all you can do.

    • Phillygurl

      Can you elaborate on the “hood”, what do you define as the “hood”.

    • Annoyed

      You are dead on. I will also add that integration was the undoing of the black community. Not an indictment or a guilt trip. People have a right to live wherever they choose. When middle class black folks left traditionally black neighborhoods, they took a certain kind of role model with them. There is no way to undo this nor should we try to shove folks back in the hood. If I knew how to imbue the perennially unemployed, pot smoking knuckleheads in my neighborhood with a thirst for knowledge and a love education, I would bottle it and die a rich old lady.

  • guest

    Buck Fill Cosby.

    I hate nogroes like this. Always wagging your finger looking down on black people when you have ZERO economic opportunity to offer your own race. Disgraceful. The issue here is class, not race. People who have resources behave in a more socially acceptable manner. They obey the law. They plan for the future. They have goals and aspirations. They invest in their children.

    But when you’re at the bottom and you’re struggling to survive, morality and good behavior goes out the window. Today matters more than tomorrow. If you take a look at rural white areas of the US or Western Europe right now you will see the same pathology at work. Young men have unemployment well in the 30 percent range. What you see is violence, drugs, high kids out of wedlock, crime, low academic performance, and overall degeneracy and degradation. Of course the white media won’t put a spotlight on that, but I digress.

    There is no black community. A community has an economic infrastructure. There is something to defend and protect because you are in constant competition with other groups. No such thing exists in the “black community”. Fix THAT and you will see some of the problems improve. All of this idiotic parroting about “education” needs to stop. All black people doing with their education today is leaving the BC and going off to work for white people their whole lives, I was fed the same garbage as a child. Go to school. Get good grades. Get a good job. And as we can see, the problems have gotten much worse, so obviously that’s not the answer.

    And for the last time, can black people put a moratorium on the adjective good? There is no such thing as a good black man or a good black woman. The term only serves as a sharp contrast to the way society and black people see themselves as inherently negative.

    Has anyone ever heard the term “bad black man” or “bad black woman”? No, because in society’s and sadly our own minds, “bad black man/woman” is redundant. It’s like describing a tree as wooden…Smh

    Marinate on that the next time you hear some negro trying to separate themselves from other black people by referring to themselves as good.

  • GeekMommaRants

    The truth hurts and is hard to hear. However, many do not understand the relationship between action and consequence. The “thug” culture, thought process and actions have been responsible for a great deal of violence and dysfunction in our community.

    Hell, at least once a week there is post about street harassment and aggression here on Clutch. So we know there are issues but some would blind themselves to this reality. I’m happy to know Dr. Cosby loves his community and wants better. Most will agree on wanting better but we shy away from the real issues we all face within our community.

  • Jessica

    Bill Cosby is not “our father”, our uncle, or even our cousin. He is an old entertainer without casting calls, looking for a live camera and a national audience. Don Lemon is a dim-witted talking head who also is using African American cultural issues to make brownie points with his next white prospective media employers.

    No other culture in the US allows the entertainers of their group to self-appoint themselves as castigators of, or spokesmen for their culture. No other ethnic group in America has high profile members who go before TV cameras and tell the world that , “something is wrong with my people; or “here’s what my people need to do to fix themselves.” Have you ever seen or heard Asians, Indians, hispanics, Irish, Italians, Poles, muslims, Jews, even talk about their indigenous group in other than glowing terms, or in defense of their cultural group? Yeah, the answer is a resounding “No!”

    Why do black entertainers, sports celebrities, and media talking heads routinely commit
    damning cultural infractions against their own people? It’s because we (1) Don’t have an African American National Congress to set the rules of behavior for high profile personalities. All other ethnic groups in this nation have a national congress. (2) Our love of money and entertainment has led us to be seduced by “the cult of celebrity.”
    We give undue adoration to the presence of, the words of and the actions of narcissistic, self-serving public figures.

    All other ethnic groups address their cultural issues behind closed doors. Out of sight and ear shot of cameras. Everyday African American cultural citizens are going to have to begin to insist that every black entertainer, sports celebrity, and media talking head cease their self-serving antics, and leave these discussions to our educational entities, our foundations, think tanks, denominational conventions, and other organizations whose work it is to address these intra-cultural issues.

    Everybody from Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Tavis Smiley, and Cornel West to Snoop Dog, need to either change to an informative, positive tack when presenting our culture to the world, or they need to find a new profession. The culture is far more valuable than the sum of our cadre of dysfunctional celebrities.