Comments on: Angie Stone: The Art of Love and War http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/ The Digital Magazine for the Young, Contemporary Woman of Color Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:39:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Jasmina http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/comment-page-1/#comment-17947 Jasmina Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:17:03 +0000 http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/#comment-17947 @tjh - Honestly, I would sit down with your man and have a loving but honest talk...break down what "your" definition of commitment is and ask him what his is...ask him what "family" means to him and you break down to him what your idea of "family" is... I'm not saying that it may not be a cultural difference, but a lot of the times it's not only cultural, but upbringing and the examples that each person has had in their life to form their opinions of what "love", "marriage", "family", "commitment", etc means to them. For a lot of people, it's breaking down that wall and seeing where you agree, disagree and whether you two can come to a comprimise when you do disagree. Plus, what are your deal breakers in your relationship. It may seem like a lot, but if you come to him in love and talk I think would help to clear the air. Just my two cents. :) God Bless @tjh –

Honestly, I would sit down with your man and have a loving but honest talk…break down what “your” definition of commitment is and ask him what his is…ask him what “family” means to him and you break down to him what your idea of “family” is…

I’m not saying that it may not be a cultural difference, but a lot of the times it’s not only cultural, but upbringing and the examples that each person has had in their life to form their opinions of what “love”, “marriage”, “family”, “commitment”, etc means to them. For a lot of people, it’s breaking down that wall and seeing where you agree, disagree and whether you two can come to a comprimise when you do disagree. Plus, what are your deal breakers in your relationship. It may seem like a lot, but if you come to him in love and talk I think would help to clear the air.

Just my two cents. :) God Bless

]]> By: tjh http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/comment-page-1/#comment-8851 tjh Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:29:55 +0000 http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/#comment-8851 i was really interested in the above article, love Angie Stone, met her when I interviewed her once on a red carpet somewhere here in Hollywood where I live. I have a question...I wanted to ask this of an objective audience. I'm a white girl, I've dated a lot of different races, classes etc. I believe in love, down to the very core of my being, and I see no color in there. I don't think we should preach equality up in our house if we ain't equal with an equal spouse. These people singin' bout takin' back the streets and their rights...but if they ain't right with their women, what's going on? I have heard so many of the black men I've been around lately (and I've been around more men from this ethnic background lately because my boyfriend for the past year is African American) bitching about 'bitter black women'. And I just gotta say (and I did say!)...you'd be bitter too, my friend, if you were treated badly (because these men were unfaithful, unkind, blinded by this mysogynistic culture, which is especially prevalent in Hollywood where the media rules) and then when the men decide it's the race of the women they're dating that's the problem!! Get outta here. Women don't like to be walked all over. And when the men go run to another race for comfort, well, that's setting up a lot of possible resentment between black women and white women etc. Women are required to take a moral higher ground and swallow a lot of pain and learn to forgive. I think it's making us stronger as a gender in the long run, but I feel we're changing and losing the men. Because they're losing themselves. The women that are going to morph to their standards and put up with this crap are the very ones that will perpetrate the whole ho bitch myth, because they will be just what they think the men want, which is pretty much the opposite of what's true from what i've seen. And as we change as a gender, we are leaving behind the very things that make the world a loving place. "Know the masculine but keep to the feminine." I believe that, I really do. My boyfriend has an assistant who refuses to meet me because I'm white. She has come into the house when I've been there and run out, slamming the door when I went to introduce myself. This is a woman who is very kind, I have heard her on the phone many times. But hates me? It eats me up sometimes because love hurts, but it's the only thing that inspires me. In my work, I gotta love it, even if I have to struggle sometimes to pay my rent. And in my relationships, the easy ones are not usually the ones I want. I want somebody who challenges me, makes me stronger, has their own identity. BUT finally! I have a few questions and I don't know whom to ask..I am dating someone who is an actor. He is somewhat well known, doesn't ever really go out, very low key and wonderful, beautiful man. I never thought i'd date an actor, being one myself and yet I fell in love with this man, and I am so very in love with him I fear I am not being honest with myself. And I start to wonder, is it a cultural issue sometimes? He can be hard on me sometimes because I'm not 'street' enough or because I'm 'naive', but that's just me. I want to be accepted the same as anyone else. I come from a pretty good place, but it's got it's own issues. Not complaining! I've been blessed. What I want to know is this, are there any cultural differences so far as dating goes that I should be filled in on? Are there issues that I should be sensitive to? I have had a really hard time with this man because he is so hard to talk to about commitment, like he is afraid of the word. I never asked for a damn thing except that he be faithful. I wonder if that is what a commitment means? I am so tore up and hurting so much. I am trying to keep myself focused and do some stuff for myself, but I'm fighting myself every step of the way. I want to believe in love where love begins and ends, in the same place. I just don't know when it's time to let go. Thank you for just reading this if you read it. :) peace to all of you girls, ladies, sisters, friends, lovers and women. The Dagara tribe is the only culture I've found who seem to have found a common ground of equality between men and women. i was really interested in the above article, love Angie Stone, met her when I interviewed her once on a red carpet somewhere here in Hollywood where I live. I have a question…I wanted to ask this of an objective audience. I’m a white girl, I’ve dated a lot of different races, classes etc. I believe in love, down to the very core of my being, and I see no color in there. I don’t think we should preach equality up in our house if we ain’t equal with an equal spouse. These people singin’ bout takin’ back the streets and their rights…but if they ain’t right with their women, what’s going on? I have heard so many of the black men I’ve been around lately (and I’ve been around more men from this ethnic background lately because my boyfriend for the past year is African American) bitching about ‘bitter black women’. And I just gotta say (and I did say!)…you’d be bitter too, my friend, if you were treated badly (because these men were unfaithful, unkind, blinded by this mysogynistic culture, which is especially prevalent in Hollywood where the media rules) and then when the men decide it’s the race of the women they’re dating that’s the problem!! Get outta here. Women don’t like to be walked all over. And when the men go run to another race for comfort, well, that’s setting up a lot of possible resentment between black women and white women etc. Women are required to take a moral higher ground and swallow a lot of pain and learn to forgive. I think it’s making us stronger as a gender in the long run, but I feel we’re changing and losing the men. Because they’re losing themselves. The women that are going to morph to their standards and put up with this crap are the very ones that will perpetrate the whole ho bitch myth, because they will be just what they think the men want, which is pretty much the opposite of what’s true from what i’ve seen. And as we change as a gender, we are leaving behind the very things that make the world a loving place. “Know the masculine but keep to the feminine.”
I believe that, I really do.
My boyfriend has an assistant who refuses to meet me because I’m white. She has come into the house when I’ve been there and run out, slamming the door when I went to introduce myself. This is a woman who is very kind, I have heard her on the phone many times. But hates me? It eats me up sometimes because love hurts, but it’s the only thing that inspires me. In my work, I gotta love it, even if I have to struggle sometimes to pay my rent. And in my relationships, the easy ones are not usually the ones I want. I want somebody who challenges me, makes me stronger, has their own identity.
BUT finally! I have a few questions and I don’t know whom to ask..I am dating someone who is an actor. He is somewhat well known, doesn’t ever really go out, very low key and wonderful, beautiful man. I never thought i’d date an actor, being one myself and yet I fell in love with this man, and I am so very in love with him I fear I am not being honest with myself. And I start to wonder, is it a cultural issue sometimes? He can be hard on me sometimes because I’m not ’street’ enough or because I’m ‘naive’, but that’s just me. I want to be accepted the same as anyone else. I come from a pretty good place, but it’s got it’s own issues. Not complaining! I’ve been blessed.
What I want to know is this, are there any cultural differences so far as dating goes that I should be filled in on? Are there issues that I should be sensitive to? I have had a really hard time with this man because he is so hard to talk to about commitment, like he is afraid of the word. I never asked for a damn thing except that he be faithful. I wonder if that is what a commitment means? I am so tore up and hurting so much. I am trying to keep myself focused and do some stuff for myself, but I’m fighting myself every step of the way. I want to believe in love where love begins and ends, in the same place. I just don’t know when it’s time to let go. Thank you for just reading this if you read it.
:) peace to all of you girls, ladies, sisters, friends, lovers and women. The Dagara tribe is the only culture I’ve found who seem to have found a common ground of equality between men and women.

]]> By: Brigitte http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/comment-page-1/#comment-5769 Brigitte Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:15:38 +0000 http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/#comment-5769 I thought she came across really badly on Celeb Fit Club. Her attitude was a big turn off. I thought she came across really badly on Celeb Fit Club. Her attitude was a big turn off.

]]> By: Nai http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/comment-page-1/#comment-5223 Nai Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:24:07 +0000 http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/#comment-5223 Man Angie, shoulda posted her e-mail address. She got all the game!! I LOVE EVERTHING SHE SAID!!!! Man I want everybody I know to read and learn from this interview. (I tell everybody I know about CLUTCH) Keep it up CLUTCH ;) Man Angie, shoulda posted her e-mail address. She got all the game!! I LOVE EVERTHING SHE SAID!!!! Man I want everybody I know to read and learn from this interview.

(I tell everybody I know about CLUTCH)

Keep it up CLUTCH ;)

]]> By: Gabby http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/comment-page-1/#comment-5047 Gabby Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:28:30 +0000 http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/#comment-5047 I loved the new video "baby" I think it came out great Angie! I loved the new video “baby” I think it came out great Angie!

]]> By: Cathy http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/comment-page-1/#comment-5046 Cathy Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:27:40 +0000 http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/#comment-5046 I am a Angie fan for life. Great down to earth interview. Best I read with her. Good job Clutch! I am a Angie fan for life. Great down to earth interview. Best I read with her. Good job Clutch!

]]> By: Eve http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/comment-page-1/#comment-5045 Eve Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:26:46 +0000 http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/#comment-5045 Congrats Angie - much success on the new cd. Congrats Angie – much success on the new cd.

]]> By: Tia http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/comment-page-1/#comment-5044 Tia Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:26:13 +0000 http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/#comment-5044 Loves Angie! too funny. Loves Angie! too funny.

]]> By: Lexie http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/comment-page-1/#comment-5043 Lexie Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:25:55 +0000 http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/#comment-5043 Great interview! Great interview!

]]> By: Urban Fashionista http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4978 Urban Fashionista Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:11:11 +0000 http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/angie-stone-the-art-of-love-and-war/#comment-4978 I agree Sanji - I can't wait to read it. I know it's going to be a great read. I agree Sanji – I can’t wait to read it. I know it’s going to be a great read.

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