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		<title>By: Carlos Bertollini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos Bertollini</dc:creator>
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		<description>By Gabriel Escobar 
                  Washington Post Staff Writer 
                  Friday, May 14, 1999; Page A03

                  NEW YORK—He passes for an African American teenager, easily. The 
                  talk, the poise, the posture, even the cornrows. He is dressed in the 
                  trademark style of the urban teen: Baggy jeans, Timberland boots, Versace 
                  sunglasses, baseball cap. At 17, Jose Mendoza is visibly and inescapably 
                  black. He brings up Martin Luther King Jr. and Rosa Parks, race and its 
                  tribulations. &quot;Why do white people gotta hate black people?&quot; he asked. 
                  &quot;Know what I&#039;m sayin?&#039; &quot;

                  He once played a joke at George Washington High School, home to upper 
                  Manhattan&#039;s immigrants since the early 1920s. Fluent in English and fluent 
                  in &quot;street,&quot; Mendoza fooled everyone by pretending he was a bona fide 
                  American black. But this American-born, Spanish-speaking Dominican 
                  was simply too good. Some Dominicans, not keen on African Americans, 
                  thought he was too African, too American, too black.

                  One day he surprised two Dominican girls derisively talking about him in 
                  Spanish. &quot;Que fue lo que tu dijiste?&quot; he asked. &quot;What did you say?&quot; His 
                  Spanish made him suddenly Dominican. From then on, he said recently, 
                  &quot;they treated me with respect.&quot;

                  This is Mendoza&#039;s world, the complex and conflicted world of black 
                  Latinos. He is at once very black but not quite black enough for many 
                  African Americans, very Latino but not light enough to matter to most 
                  Hispanics, American in every way but at the same time inexorably foreign. 
                  &quot;From the inside we&#039;re Dominicans. From the outside, we&#039;re black,&quot; is how 
                  he described it.

                  Dominicans account for eight in every 10 students at George Washington, 
                  reflecting the enormous migration of islanders to New York City. 
                  Dominicans have been the largest immigrant group in the city every decade 
                  since 1970, and this historic influx has altered the face of the immigrant 
                  population here and introduced an entirely new culture. To assimilate, or 
                  even to fit in, the black Latinos must adapt not only to white America and 
                  black America but to Latino America.

                  Their strong ties to the island make them citizens of both countries and, it 
                  seems, citizens of neither. &quot;They are here and there and in between. Yet 
                  they are perceived as foreigners in both locations,&quot; noted Luis E. Guarnizo, 
                  a sociologist at the University of California at Davis and an authority on the 
                  Dominican migration.

                  Nowhere is the assimilation of black Latinos more evident than in New 
                  York, where Dominicans have flocked in such great numbers. Throughout 
                  the early 1990s, the Dominican Republic accounted for one in five 
                  immigrants to the city, an average of 22,000 annually, according to the 
                  most current figures. By next year, the Dominican population in New York 
                  City may reach 700,000, the equivalent of many middle-sized cities.

                  Between 1990 and 1994, an astonishing 35,657 Dominicans settled in 
                  Washington Heights, Inwood and Hamilton Heights, contiguous 
                  neighborhoods in upper Manhattan that have been dramatically altered by 
                  the legal migration from the Caribbean. Dominicans, skillful at grass-roots 
                  organization, already are a force on the New York school board and have 
                  elected two judges, a city councilman and a state assemblyman. Politically 
                  they have fit in better and faster than most immigrant groups. New York 
                  City Council member Guillermo Linares, the country&#039;s first elected official 
                  born in the Dominican Republic, said Dominicans like to refer to 
                  themselves as &quot;300 percenters--100 percent Dominican Republic, 100 
                  percent Dominican American and 100 percent American.&quot;

                  But on the street and in school, what is skin deep is often what matters. 
                  While those with Mendoza&#039;s skin color will be automatically identified as 
                  black, many lighter-skinned Dominicans are not so easily pegged. In his 
                  writings, the Dominican writer Junot Diaz uses the term &quot;halfie&quot; to describe 
                  this significant group. One consequence is that many in the community 
                  define themselves less by color than by cultural identity. &quot;Where you 
                  gravitate to speaks so loudly,&quot; Linares said, reflecting the unusual position 
                  many Dominicans are in because so many can literally choose their race.

                  Of course, black Dominicans like Mendoza don&#039;t have that choice. And 
                  while his comfortable identification with African Americans shows he has 
                  answered a central question faced by Dominicans--black like 
                  who?--hundreds of thousands must still reconcile their very nuanced views 
                  on race with the stark black-white reality of their adopted country.

                  Finding a place for themselves, much less assimilating, has not been easy. 
                  Afro-Latinos are largely ignored by leaders of African American national 
                  groups. &quot;We have to go there and give them evidence that we are black, 
                  which doesn&#039;t mean they will believe us,&quot; Silvio Torres-Saillant, the director 
                  of the Dominican Studies Center at the City College of New York, said of 
                  African American civil rights groups.

                  Diaz, whose short fiction has been lauded for capturing the varied 
                  landscape of the Dominican diaspora, said America&#039;s dialogue between 
                  blacks and whites is so narrow that it leaves out this large and new 
                  migration. African Americans &quot;are allowed to be black because they don&#039;t 
                  speak Spanish,&quot; he said, &quot;but I&#039;m not allowed to be black because I speak 
                  Spanish.&quot;

                  Afro-Latinos are ignored even by some fellow Latinos. And when they&#039;re 
                  not, they are often depicted in ways no longer tolerated by African 
                  Americans. While national Hispanic groups bitterly complain about how 
                  they are portrayed in the English-speaking media, a small group of 
                  Afro-Latinos has fought, largely in vain, to remove stereotyping in the 
                  Spanish-language media. Roland Roebuck, an Afro-Latino from Puerto 
                  Rico, last year wrote a bitter letter about the portrayal of black Latinos to 
                  Henry Cisneros, a former Clinton administration Cabinet member and now 
                  president of the powerful Univision network.

                  &quot;Imagine for a moment, Mr. Cisneros, how an Afro-Latino family viewing 
                  your station feels when our people are portrayed in your news, novelas 
                  and programs as criminal, savage, lazy, slick, sex-driven, violent, 
                  superstitious, uneducated, undependable and untrustworthy,&quot; wrote 
                  Roebuck, who works for the District government.

                  If Afro-Latinos are sometimes ignored by their own kind, they are 
                  practically invisible in America. The black Latino, so visible on the streets 
                  of upper Manhattan and especially in major league baseball, still does not 
                  register in the collective American definition of who a Hispanic is.

                  As if this were not challenge enough, Dominican migrants must also 
                  reconcile their island&#039;s complex racial code with America&#039;s historically 
                  contentious one. In the Dominican Republic, the oppressors have generally 
                  been mulattoes and light-skinned blacks. One of the worst insults for a 
                  black Dominican is to call him a Haitian. Haiti invaded and occupied the 
                  Dominican Republic twice and these seminal events heavily influence the 
                  island&#039;s view on race. &quot;You are what you appear to be,&quot; said 
                  Torres-Saillant, &quot;which is very different from the generic racial definition 
                  here.&quot;

                  Which is, in essence, what happened to Mendoza when he pulled off his 
                  joke. Dominican students, seeing his black skin, &quot;dissed&quot; him because he 
                  was black and seemingly foreign to them. The African American he 
                  pretended to be became the hated Haitian of the island. In a group of light- 
                  and brown-skinned students and teachers, the island&#039;s racial sensibilities 
                  hold sway. Parents&#039; preference is for sons and daughters to marry &quot;light,&quot; 
                  according to some teenagers.

                  For Dominicans, particularly teenagers, sorting out their racial identity can 
                  be confusing. Teenagers choose their race, going white or black, 
                  depending on their own skin tone. &quot;Some of the kids who are darker more 
                  readily accept the African Americans, and they look to that kind of music,&quot; 
                  said Thomas Garcia, a Dominican who teaches at the school.

                  &quot;You see that black guy? He&#039;s Dominican,&quot; Albert Bonilla, 17, said one 
                  day between classes, when the hallways were crowded. The student 
                  Bonilla singled out, like Bonilla himself, was a light-skinned black who was 
                  &quot;thugged out,&quot; their term for hip-hop getup that defines the group.

                  &quot;My grandmother be like, put your pants up! Subate el pantalon!&quot; said 
                  Bonilla. &quot;You see the way we talk?&quot; he asked. &quot;You don&#039;t hear white 
                  people talking like that.&quot;

                  Mendoza and other black Dominicans identify with African American 
                  culture--their game, for example, is basketball and not baseball. They talk 
                  in what is best described as &quot;black spanglish,&quot; a mix of English and Spanish 
                  with a decidedly hip-hop accent.

                  &quot;I used to be a decent boy,&quot; Mendoza said, cracking up the kids around 
                  him. Now, he said, he filters race through the African American 
                  experience. &quot;If white people are going to hate me,&quot; he said, &quot;I&#039;m going to 
                  hate back.&quot;

                  Mendoza fulfills the prediction of one study that said the longer black 
                  Dominicans are in this country the likelier they are to identify with 
                  American blacks. But after all his talk and posturing, Mendoza steps back 
                  just a little and, like Linares, plays the percent game. He announces that he 
                  still prefers rice and beans over American food. He calls it &quot;a Dominican 
                  plate. The grub.&quot;

                  &quot;I&#039;m still part Dominican,&quot; he said, suddenly serious. &quot;That&#039;s my nationality. 
                  If you become African American, you give your nationality away. That&#039;s 
                  like saying you&#039;re betraying your country.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Gabriel Escobar<br />
                  Washington Post Staff Writer<br />
                  Friday, May 14, 1999; Page A03</p>
<p>                  NEW YORK—He passes for an African American teenager, easily. The<br />
                  talk, the poise, the posture, even the cornrows. He is dressed in the<br />
                  trademark style of the urban teen: Baggy jeans, Timberland boots, Versace<br />
                  sunglasses, baseball cap. At 17, Jose Mendoza is visibly and inescapably<br />
                  black. He brings up Martin Luther King Jr. and Rosa Parks, race and its<br />
                  tribulations. &#8220;Why do white people gotta hate black people?&#8221; he asked.<br />
                  &#8220;Know what I&#8217;m sayin?&#8217; &#8221;</p>
<p>                  He once played a joke at George Washington High School, home to upper<br />
                  Manhattan&#8217;s immigrants since the early 1920s. Fluent in English and fluent<br />
                  in &#8220;street,&#8221; Mendoza fooled everyone by pretending he was a bona fide<br />
                  American black. But this American-born, Spanish-speaking Dominican<br />
                  was simply too good. Some Dominicans, not keen on African Americans,<br />
                  thought he was too African, too American, too black.</p>
<p>                  One day he surprised two Dominican girls derisively talking about him in<br />
                  Spanish. &#8220;Que fue lo que tu dijiste?&#8221; he asked. &#8220;What did you say?&#8221; His<br />
                  Spanish made him suddenly Dominican. From then on, he said recently,<br />
                  &#8220;they treated me with respect.&#8221;</p>
<p>                  This is Mendoza&#8217;s world, the complex and conflicted world of black<br />
                  Latinos. He is at once very black but not quite black enough for many<br />
                  African Americans, very Latino but not light enough to matter to most<br />
                  Hispanics, American in every way but at the same time inexorably foreign.<br />
                  &#8220;From the inside we&#8217;re Dominicans. From the outside, we&#8217;re black,&#8221; is how<br />
                  he described it.</p>
<p>                  Dominicans account for eight in every 10 students at George Washington,<br />
                  reflecting the enormous migration of islanders to New York City.<br />
                  Dominicans have been the largest immigrant group in the city every decade<br />
                  since 1970, and this historic influx has altered the face of the immigrant<br />
                  population here and introduced an entirely new culture. To assimilate, or<br />
                  even to fit in, the black Latinos must adapt not only to white America and<br />
                  black America but to Latino America.</p>
<p>                  Their strong ties to the island make them citizens of both countries and, it<br />
                  seems, citizens of neither. &#8220;They are here and there and in between. Yet<br />
                  they are perceived as foreigners in both locations,&#8221; noted Luis E. Guarnizo,<br />
                  a sociologist at the University of California at Davis and an authority on the<br />
                  Dominican migration.</p>
<p>                  Nowhere is the assimilation of black Latinos more evident than in New<br />
                  York, where Dominicans have flocked in such great numbers. Throughout<br />
                  the early 1990s, the Dominican Republic accounted for one in five<br />
                  immigrants to the city, an average of 22,000 annually, according to the<br />
                  most current figures. By next year, the Dominican population in New York<br />
                  City may reach 700,000, the equivalent of many middle-sized cities.</p>
<p>                  Between 1990 and 1994, an astonishing 35,657 Dominicans settled in<br />
                  Washington Heights, Inwood and Hamilton Heights, contiguous<br />
                  neighborhoods in upper Manhattan that have been dramatically altered by<br />
                  the legal migration from the Caribbean. Dominicans, skillful at grass-roots<br />
                  organization, already are a force on the New York school board and have<br />
                  elected two judges, a city councilman and a state assemblyman. Politically<br />
                  they have fit in better and faster than most immigrant groups. New York<br />
                  City Council member Guillermo Linares, the country&#8217;s first elected official<br />
                  born in the Dominican Republic, said Dominicans like to refer to<br />
                  themselves as &#8220;300 percenters&#8211;100 percent Dominican Republic, 100<br />
                  percent Dominican American and 100 percent American.&#8221;</p>
<p>                  But on the street and in school, what is skin deep is often what matters.<br />
                  While those with Mendoza&#8217;s skin color will be automatically identified as<br />
                  black, many lighter-skinned Dominicans are not so easily pegged. In his<br />
                  writings, the Dominican writer Junot Diaz uses the term &#8220;halfie&#8221; to describe<br />
                  this significant group. One consequence is that many in the community<br />
                  define themselves less by color than by cultural identity. &#8220;Where you<br />
                  gravitate to speaks so loudly,&#8221; Linares said, reflecting the unusual position<br />
                  many Dominicans are in because so many can literally choose their race.</p>
<p>                  Of course, black Dominicans like Mendoza don&#8217;t have that choice. And<br />
                  while his comfortable identification with African Americans shows he has<br />
                  answered a central question faced by Dominicans&#8211;black like<br />
                  who?&#8211;hundreds of thousands must still reconcile their very nuanced views<br />
                  on race with the stark black-white reality of their adopted country.</p>
<p>                  Finding a place for themselves, much less assimilating, has not been easy.<br />
                  Afro-Latinos are largely ignored by leaders of African American national<br />
                  groups. &#8220;We have to go there and give them evidence that we are black,<br />
                  which doesn&#8217;t mean they will believe us,&#8221; Silvio Torres-Saillant, the director<br />
                  of the Dominican Studies Center at the City College of New York, said of<br />
                  African American civil rights groups.</p>
<p>                  Diaz, whose short fiction has been lauded for capturing the varied<br />
                  landscape of the Dominican diaspora, said America&#8217;s dialogue between<br />
                  blacks and whites is so narrow that it leaves out this large and new<br />
                  migration. African Americans &#8220;are allowed to be black because they don&#8217;t<br />
                  speak Spanish,&#8221; he said, &#8220;but I&#8217;m not allowed to be black because I speak<br />
                  Spanish.&#8221;</p>
<p>                  Afro-Latinos are ignored even by some fellow Latinos. And when they&#8217;re<br />
                  not, they are often depicted in ways no longer tolerated by African<br />
                  Americans. While national Hispanic groups bitterly complain about how<br />
                  they are portrayed in the English-speaking media, a small group of<br />
                  Afro-Latinos has fought, largely in vain, to remove stereotyping in the<br />
                  Spanish-language media. Roland Roebuck, an Afro-Latino from Puerto<br />
                  Rico, last year wrote a bitter letter about the portrayal of black Latinos to<br />
                  Henry Cisneros, a former Clinton administration Cabinet member and now<br />
                  president of the powerful Univision network.</p>
<p>                  &#8220;Imagine for a moment, Mr. Cisneros, how an Afro-Latino family viewing<br />
                  your station feels when our people are portrayed in your news, novelas<br />
                  and programs as criminal, savage, lazy, slick, sex-driven, violent,<br />
                  superstitious, uneducated, undependable and untrustworthy,&#8221; wrote<br />
                  Roebuck, who works for the District government.</p>
<p>                  If Afro-Latinos are sometimes ignored by their own kind, they are<br />
                  practically invisible in America. The black Latino, so visible on the streets<br />
                  of upper Manhattan and especially in major league baseball, still does not<br />
                  register in the collective American definition of who a Hispanic is.</p>
<p>                  As if this were not challenge enough, Dominican migrants must also<br />
                  reconcile their island&#8217;s complex racial code with America&#8217;s historically<br />
                  contentious one. In the Dominican Republic, the oppressors have generally<br />
                  been mulattoes and light-skinned blacks. One of the worst insults for a<br />
                  black Dominican is to call him a Haitian. Haiti invaded and occupied the<br />
                  Dominican Republic twice and these seminal events heavily influence the<br />
                  island&#8217;s view on race. &#8220;You are what you appear to be,&#8221; said<br />
                  Torres-Saillant, &#8220;which is very different from the generic racial definition<br />
                  here.&#8221;</p>
<p>                  Which is, in essence, what happened to Mendoza when he pulled off his<br />
                  joke. Dominican students, seeing his black skin, &#8220;dissed&#8221; him because he<br />
                  was black and seemingly foreign to them. The African American he<br />
                  pretended to be became the hated Haitian of the island. In a group of light-<br />
                  and brown-skinned students and teachers, the island&#8217;s racial sensibilities<br />
                  hold sway. Parents&#8217; preference is for sons and daughters to marry &#8220;light,&#8221;<br />
                  according to some teenagers.</p>
<p>                  For Dominicans, particularly teenagers, sorting out their racial identity can<br />
                  be confusing. Teenagers choose their race, going white or black,<br />
                  depending on their own skin tone. &#8220;Some of the kids who are darker more<br />
                  readily accept the African Americans, and they look to that kind of music,&#8221;<br />
                  said Thomas Garcia, a Dominican who teaches at the school.</p>
<p>                  &#8220;You see that black guy? He&#8217;s Dominican,&#8221; Albert Bonilla, 17, said one<br />
                  day between classes, when the hallways were crowded. The student<br />
                  Bonilla singled out, like Bonilla himself, was a light-skinned black who was<br />
                  &#8220;thugged out,&#8221; their term for hip-hop getup that defines the group.</p>
<p>                  &#8220;My grandmother be like, put your pants up! Subate el pantalon!&#8221; said<br />
                  Bonilla. &#8220;You see the way we talk?&#8221; he asked. &#8220;You don&#8217;t hear white<br />
                  people talking like that.&#8221;</p>
<p>                  Mendoza and other black Dominicans identify with African American<br />
                  culture&#8211;their game, for example, is basketball and not baseball. They talk<br />
                  in what is best described as &#8220;black spanglish,&#8221; a mix of English and Spanish<br />
                  with a decidedly hip-hop accent.</p>
<p>                  &#8220;I used to be a decent boy,&#8221; Mendoza said, cracking up the kids around<br />
                  him. Now, he said, he filters race through the African American<br />
                  experience. &#8220;If white people are going to hate me,&#8221; he said, &#8220;I&#8217;m going to<br />
                  hate back.&#8221;</p>
<p>                  Mendoza fulfills the prediction of one study that said the longer black<br />
                  Dominicans are in this country the likelier they are to identify with<br />
                  American blacks. But after all his talk and posturing, Mendoza steps back<br />
                  just a little and, like Linares, plays the percent game. He announces that he<br />
                  still prefers rice and beans over American food. He calls it &#8220;a Dominican<br />
                  plate. The grub.&#8221;</p>
<p>                  &#8220;I&#8217;m still part Dominican,&#8221; he said, suddenly serious. &#8220;That&#8217;s my nationality.<br />
                  If you become African American, you give your nationality away. That&#8217;s<br />
                  like saying you&#8217;re betraying your country.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Bertollini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos Bertollini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in Dominican Republic and i sure that the 95% of the dominicans belong to the black race. There is racism there because many people do not want to consider black, they call themselves indio....I did not see any indian there....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in Dominican Republic and i sure that the 95% of the dominicans belong to the black race. There is racism there because many people do not want to consider black, they call themselves indio&#8230;.I did not see any indian there&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jeremias vernom</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeremias vernom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear sir or madam:  i am a black dominican you are right the goverment in the dominican rep have a agent in not talking about the african history and how much we have in commond with africa more than 80 % dominican are black or from afican desent the connection with africa is every were in the island the way of educating the dominican people  about race is by whiting book about the istory of black people in america .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear sir or madam:  i am a black dominican you are right the goverment in the dominican rep have a agent in not talking about the african history and how much we have in commond with africa more than 80 % dominican are black or from afican desent the connection with africa is every were in the island the way of educating the dominican people  about race is by whiting book about the istory of black people in america .</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are people reacting with such anger and rage? The article may be &quot;ugly&quot; as some claim, but that doesn&#039;t alter the threads of truth, and despair when reading it. Let&#039;s be brutally honest here, and just tell it like it really is! Most BW today whether they reside in the Dominican Repebulic, or in the US...are caught up in this &quot;hopeless&quot; battle, no &quot;WAR&quot; to try to both reject their African Culture (even though most will never admit that openly), and also attempt as much as can be to only emulate white women! I think its so sad, and just plain embrassing to all people of color globally! If, those that want to &quot;deny&quot; that they&#039;re black or African, and attempt to call yourselves Latin, Indian, Creole, or whatever that clearly means that you&#039;re only praticing self hatred! Yes, I totally agree with one of the previous posters comments here &quot;We are brainwashed into thinking that white is beautiful and black is ugly.&quot; that&#039;s very true, but why not tell that to the majority of black women around the globe that are mostly now wearing all that &quot;fake hair&quot;! People are only laughing at them..really even other black people! Just totally sensenless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are people reacting with such anger and rage? The article may be &#8220;ugly&#8221; as some claim, but that doesn&#8217;t alter the threads of truth, and despair when reading it. Let&#8217;s be brutally honest here, and just tell it like it really is! Most BW today whether they reside in the Dominican Repebulic, or in the US&#8230;are caught up in this &#8220;hopeless&#8221; battle, no &#8220;WAR&#8221; to try to both reject their African Culture (even though most will never admit that openly), and also attempt as much as can be to only emulate white women! I think its so sad, and just plain embrassing to all people of color globally! If, those that want to &#8220;deny&#8221; that they&#8217;re black or African, and attempt to call yourselves Latin, Indian, Creole, or whatever that clearly means that you&#8217;re only praticing self hatred! Yes, I totally agree with one of the previous posters comments here &#8220;We are brainwashed into thinking that white is beautiful and black is ugly.&#8221; that&#8217;s very true, but why not tell that to the majority of black women around the globe that are mostly now wearing all that &#8220;fake hair&#8221;! People are only laughing at them..really even other black people! Just totally sensenless!</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Dominican woman I was absolutely outraged after reading the article. Then I spoke to a few other Dominican women about it.. and they agreed with the article. We are brainwashed into thinking that white is beautiful and black is ugly. Its just a different form of racism in DR. I lived in DR and was born there. The article is very ugly and after the anger was gone I sat down and really really thought about it. I went from desrizado to natural hair and I have always embraced the morena side of me. What I realized is that I am a rare minority in the Dominican culture. Being in America has made me open my eyes. I love my country with all my heart and soul, but we as a people need to stop calling ourselves Indios and see that we are some fine looking morenitos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Dominican woman I was absolutely outraged after reading the article. Then I spoke to a few other Dominican women about it.. and they agreed with the article. We are brainwashed into thinking that white is beautiful and black is ugly. Its just a different form of racism in DR. I lived in DR and was born there. The article is very ugly and after the anger was gone I sat down and really really thought about it. I went from desrizado to natural hair and I have always embraced the morena side of me. What I realized is that I am a rare minority in the Dominican culture. Being in America has made me open my eyes. I love my country with all my heart and soul, but we as a people need to stop calling ourselves Indios and see that we are some fine looking morenitos.</p>
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		<title>By: Shoka Kubwa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shoka Kubwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 01:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clutch
 Oct.5,2007

 As an African American I find the outcry over &quot;Black
 Denial&quot; to be the usual hypocritical whining of 
 so-called Blacks.  We are not a European people; we
 are an African people, but I would wager being 
 burned at the stake that 99% of these so-called
 Blacks in the Western Hemisphere would rather &quot;fight
 than switch&quot; from their European names and languages
 to African names and languages.

 Asante (thanks)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clutch<br />
 Oct.5,2007</p>
<p> As an African American I find the outcry over &#8220;Black<br />
 Denial&#8221; to be the usual hypocritical whining of<br />
 so-called Blacks.  We are not a European people; we<br />
 are an African people, but I would wager being<br />
 burned at the stake that 99% of these so-called<br />
 Blacks in the Western Hemisphere would rather &#8220;fight<br />
 than switch&#8221; from their European names and languages<br />
 to African names and languages.</p>
<p> Asante (thanks)</p>
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		<title>By: Clutch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deja and our other wonderful readers - Clutch did indeed give credit to the authors of the rebuttal, who happen to be graduate students at Howard University and their names are listed in the beginning of the article.  Also, we always list our sources for articles not written by us.  We also went to other sites via Afrobella and informed her audience we did not write the article as well.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deja and our other wonderful readers &#8211; Clutch did indeed give credit to the authors of the rebuttal, who happen to be graduate students at Howard University and their names are listed in the beginning of the article.  Also, we always list our sources for articles not written by us.  We also went to other sites via Afrobella and informed her audience we did not write the article as well.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: deja</title>
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		<dc:creator>deja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Clutch:  Thanks for posting this rebuttal to the article written by the Herald.  If indeed it was written by someone else, please give credit where credit is due.  


To CMAE:

I&#039;m sorry you were unable to find our presence in the South Florida area....but do know there are a number of successful American Blacks and Caribbean Blacks in the area.  Did you check the northern end of Miami-Dade county?  Did you visit the Lauderhill area?  Did you know that the city of Miami Gardens, its mayor is a Black woman?  There are plenty of cultural venues and restaurants in the county were you could have fellowshipped with our brothers and sisters of the diaspora.

Believe and understand that the Miami Herald and other mainstream newspapers do NOT report on the positive day-to-day goings on in our communities, hence the development of many smaller newspapers geared towards us, such as the Miami Times, and Caribbean Voice, among others.

I hope you will visit South Florida again, and get to experience the varied culture that is abound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Clutch:  Thanks for posting this rebuttal to the article written by the Herald.  If indeed it was written by someone else, please give credit where credit is due.  </p>
<p>To CMAE:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry you were unable to find our presence in the South Florida area&#8230;.but do know there are a number of successful American Blacks and Caribbean Blacks in the area.  Did you check the northern end of Miami-Dade county?  Did you visit the Lauderhill area?  Did you know that the city of Miami Gardens, its mayor is a Black woman?  There are plenty of cultural venues and restaurants in the county were you could have fellowshipped with our brothers and sisters of the diaspora.</p>
<p>Believe and understand that the Miami Herald and other mainstream newspapers do NOT report on the positive day-to-day goings on in our communities, hence the development of many smaller newspapers geared towards us, such as the Miami Times, and Caribbean Voice, among others.</p>
<p>I hope you will visit South Florida again, and get to experience the varied culture that is abound.</p>
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		<title>By: Afro-Dominicano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Afro-Dominicano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Afro Bella, the response to Black Denial you find in Clutch Magazine titled &quot;Did the Miami Herald Have an Agenda?&quot; is not an article written by the staff of Clutch Magazine.  Clutch must be given credit and much thanks for formally publishing this letter, which was originally posted in the &quot;Submit Comment&quot; section. The article was written by two Dominican graduate students of Howard University, Christina Violeta Jones and Pedro R. Rivera. I shared the letter with the intention to provide balance not only to the scandalous content of &quot;Black Denial,&quot; but also to respond to some of the comments made by Clutch Magazine readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Afro Bella, the response to Black Denial you find in Clutch Magazine titled &#8220;Did the Miami Herald Have an Agenda?&#8221; is not an article written by the staff of Clutch Magazine.  Clutch must be given credit and much thanks for formally publishing this letter, which was originally posted in the &#8220;Submit Comment&#8221; section. The article was written by two Dominican graduate students of Howard University, Christina Violeta Jones and Pedro R. Rivera. I shared the letter with the intention to provide balance not only to the scandalous content of &#8220;Black Denial,&#8221; but also to respond to some of the comments made by Clutch Magazine readers.</p>
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		<title>By: CMAE</title>
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		<dc:creator>CMAE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While searching for some African presence in MIAMI.   I 
ran into this newspaper article. Their Agenda was clear to me.  Where is the presence of the Black???  Whether it is the Caribe or African Black.    For me a visit to Miami is like going into a fairy tale  land filled with rich  whites and wanna be rich whites,,,,, and then their are those poor people of the Carribbean who are still
hiding behide their light to white skins. 

 They have  produced nothing visitable, no culture or community.  Haitians  also live in horrible states.  I did not, could not visit their resturants or shops.  Too confused was I as to where I could sit and eat with cultural people and have a decent time with.   I wanted to spend time, hear conversation, dine with someone  other than McD&#039;s or those other eateries.   Poor Blacks had only their drugs depressed culture to share with me..  I looked for the Dominican&#039;s food and community  that I am used to since for me here in the BIG APPLE  they are a refuge in a stormy town.   I am an American born Black and I totally enjoy
the African culture.  Even the smallest hints of it........Why hide it????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While searching for some African presence in MIAMI.   I<br />
ran into this newspaper article. Their Agenda was clear to me.  Where is the presence of the Black???  Whether it is the Caribe or African Black.    For me a visit to Miami is like going into a fairy tale  land filled with rich  whites and wanna be rich whites,,,,, and then their are those poor people of the Carribbean who are still<br />
hiding behide their light to white skins. </p>
<p> They have  produced nothing visitable, no culture or community.  Haitians  also live in horrible states.  I did not, could not visit their resturants or shops.  Too confused was I as to where I could sit and eat with cultural people and have a decent time with.   I wanted to spend time, hear conversation, dine with someone  other than McD&#8217;s or those other eateries.   Poor Blacks had only their drugs depressed culture to share with me..  I looked for the Dominican&#8217;s food and community  that I am used to since for me here in the BIG APPLE  they are a refuge in a stormy town.   I am an American born Black and I totally enjoy<br />
the African culture.  Even the smallest hints of it&#8230;&#8230;..Why hide it????</p>
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