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In a close 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court ruled that states can no longer prevent same-sex couples from getting married and must also recognize their unions if couples move across state lines. The ruling ensures gay marriage will now be legal in all 50 states.

Writing for the majority, Justice Anthony Kennedy asserted same-sex couples don’t denigrate the institution of marriage as some have argued, but respect it.

No union is more profound than marriage, for it embodies the highest ideals of love, fidelity, devotion, sacrifice, and family. In forming a marital union, two people become something greater than once they were. As some of the petitioners in these cases demonstrate, marriage embodies a love that may endure even past death. It would misunderstand these men and women to say they disrespect the idea of marriage. Their plea is that they do respect it, respect it so deeply that they seek to find its fulfillment for themselves. Their hope is not to be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization’s oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right.

President Obama called the ruling “a big step” toward equality.

Vice President Biden said today’s ruling made him proud. 

Prior to the court’s ruling on Obergefell v. Hodges, which linked together three other cases, same-sex marriage was banned in 13 states. Two years ago, the court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act, which allowed the federal government to recognize same-sex marriages and paved the way for today’s decision.

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  • Ann Gomez

    I guess everyone forgot the gays showing how racist they were during prop 8….

  • Robin

    Fake Ignorate outrage: When a person or person(s) literally and passionately express thier opposing views on another person pushing thier religous, political views, or indirect outrage because they feel they are in the right. Or can’t form a intellectual dialect with the opposing side because they feel intimated by person’s intellect so they put thier deflectors on, by going subject to subject. You just got to let thier ignorance have the floor and watch (shrug) It’s entertaining.

    • noirluv45

      How come when Christians or others vocally express their opinions, they are considered “pushing their beliefs” on everyone else, but when gays insist on everyone accepting their unions, and will go to any length to make sure people don’t speak out against them, they somehow don’t get labeled as “pushy?” Just asking.

    • Robin

      Good question. I’m all about valueing folks opinions and beliefs. It doesn’t mean I have to believe in them. Like don’t tell me who you don’t know that your directing fire and brimestone hell at me, pray for me because I’m not agreeing to what you believe in or have a “God talks to me only” complex because I don’t believe or question what you say or question when its a sort of a new ideaology. That’s just fake Ignorate Outrage to me. Same thing goes for gays. In my opinion I don’t see how the LGBT is making anyone do anything like physically, spiritually, emotionally you can still believe in what you want and say what you want. I think their some extreme cases to what you say or do to anyone of difference but really…. the difference is they did it for themselves and didn’t really care what others thought. They did it for thier community not for anyone’s else opinions or beliefs. That’s pretty admirable to me. Nobody has to accept anything in this country we have at least that freedom to express what we want. And you don’t have to agree with that and guess what? That’s okay!

    • noirluv45

      Robin, thank you for your reply. You said, “I don’t see how the LGBT is making anyone do anything like physically, spiritually, emotionally you can still believe in what you want and say what you want.” Tell that to Isaiah Washington who quoted from another source the “F” word (the derogatory word some use for gays), and because of that, he got fired. People are terrified to speak out against this very strong and power community, so I’ll have to disagree with you on that. However, yes, there are some very strong radicals on both sides of the fence. Again, I beg to differ in that they don’t force feed their lifestyle down people’s throats. Even children are being encouraged in school to learn “others” lifestyles. What’s next? JMO.

    • Robin

      Hi Noriluv45, Good points and I respect your opposing view or views. But we will have to agree to disagree. I still don’t see how this Marriage equality could affect anyone, directly. So you may have to adjust abit, I still don’t see how its being forced down anyone’s throats like some bad medicine. Although I hate the brotha Isaiah Washington had gotten fired off the show Grey’s Anatomy I feel he failed to realize that he had other co-workers, writers along with Gay community allies work for and on the show. You can’t just drop ‘F bombs’ all in front of them and expect not to get repremanted. Plus, your black (Isaiah Washington) some may have expected you to have a problem with gays because you are black. (Which is a sterotype in its self because not all black folks have problems with the LGBT community) so they may have been good and ready to make him an example. He failed to view his surroundings. But let’s flip it. I know someone’s lifestyle and race are totally different but in the sake of dropping ‘name calling’ it’s the same thing. For example, lets say a white guy who works for a predominately black company, there’s only a few white guys that work there and someone black hears one of the white guys dropping the ‘n-word’ or ‘monkey and I work with gorillas’ in front of the other white guys. Do you expect that white person to continue to work for the black company anymore? Would you want to work beside that person anymore? To me a persons lifestyle choice has nothing to do with me. He failed to know his surroundings within the shondaland empire. This marriage equality is a change and its uncomfortable for some, I get it but I read this point somewhere and 100% stand behind it “You are not being oppressed when a another group gains rights that you have always had”. As part of an oppressed group, I feel we just don’t have the time nor luxury to waste energy on standing up AGAINST LGBT community. You asked what’s next, this: We need to take that energy and put it to uplifting ourselves as a black community.

    • Me

      agree w/everything you said, especially the last part.

    • noirluv45

      Hi Robin! Thank you, and I respect your point of views as
      well. Let me explain what I mean by the gay lifestyle being forced down our throats. Replying to your comments regarding Isaiah Washington. From what I understand, that case was a matter of “he said, he said.” Isaiah said he did not call that gentleman the “f” word, and the other guy said Isaiah did call him that
      name. I don’t know because I, obviously, wasn’t there. If Isaiah did call that man such a derogatory name, then yes, I can understand his being reprimanded, but they also blackballed him. Why? Because he messed with the wrong people. Have you noticed how Blacks are targeted quite often by people, but they won’t dare mess with the LFBT community? They know they will get their behinds kicked. There’s a lot of force behind those feet. LOL.

      Here are some other examples as to the huge influence of the LGBT community and their supporters. If one says anything remotely uncomplimentary of the LGBT
      community, the accusations of being bigots, homophobes, or intolerant will follow even if the comment wasn’t directed that person, but their lifestyle. Because of that, people are afraid to speak their minds. Let’s not even talk about the media. Entertainers will proudly raise the rainbow flag along with the LGBT community, but wouldn’t dare, for example, raise, for example, the pan-African flag whether they are Black or not.

      I read your scenario about a White employee saying the “N” word or calling Blacks monkey while working for a Black company. That White guy would most likely get chewed out, spit out, and fired, but that’s not my argument. My problem is that if something perceived as negative is said about the LGBT community is spoken, the backlash is sure to follow.

      There has also been a push to indoctrinate children into this “alternative “lifestyle. Several years ago, parents from the Alameda school district sued to have an opt-out clause for the LGBT alternative lifestyle
      curriculum. Because of the outrage of the parents whose children were forced to learn this curriculum was subsequently dropped. Those parents did not want the school district to determine what their children learned and when they learned it. Whether we like it
      or not, that’s the way it is. I’m sure many gay activists would love school children to know about various kinds of love. Some might say, “How would I feel if a school district wanted to implement African American studies, but parents rallied against it. I’d have a problem because one agenda is about accepting people and their history, and one is about accepting a lifestyle the parent may not want their children introduced to. I believe all children should be taught to respect others regardless or race, creed, color, sexual orientation, etc.

      What’s more, rarely, if ever discussed are racism and exclusion of the Black LGBT community by the LGBT community. Trust, I’ve encountered them before.

      I’m all for love and community, and I really don’t see how some against same-sex marriage are standing against a community. It’s just a matter of how people define marriage, and some think the definitely should not have been changed. It’s a matter of opinion, but they, they won so I guess it doesn’t matter, right?

    • Den Un

      There is a difference between opinion and accusation. I don’t know why anyone keeps allowing these accusations by Christians to be called anything else.

    • noirluv45

      Because, in my eyes, they aren’t accusations. The true accusers are the LGBT community and their supporters. JMO.

    • Den Un

      Your response pretty much says “black people are more racist”. Bigot language stays the same regardless of the issue and making it easy to spot. Even down to the inflated, self-important accusation that LGBT want their unions to be accepted by everyone. Nah sweetheart, they want equal protections and access just like any other sustained, adult union as tax paying citizens. Your beliefs and acceptance is not required.

    • Noirluv45

      In response to your first claim that I pretty much claim, “Black people are more racist.” What? I said people claim CHRISTIANS push their beliefs on everyone else. Where did you get “Blacks are more racist?” Secondly, I understand what they want, but I also believe (my opinion) that there is pressure on those who are apposed to these unions become supporters. All one has to do is state they don’t support gay marriage, and the accusations of bigotry and homophobia fly. Don’t tell me that people don’t get offensive and defensive about it.

      Oh, and by the way, I know my acceptance is not required. Thank you for reassuring me of that.

    • Den Un

      Um, that was an analogy to highlight bigoted language patterns-no matter how subtle, now you know where it came from.

      There is nothing to oppose because they exist and function without regard or “opinion” aka accusation. The union doesn’t need your individual support either, just given the same legal and economic protections by the same system that we all pay into. Christians, like whites, aren’t allowed to publicly dehumanize minority groups without at least social consequence which is a good thing. Something you’ll get over in time as you keep your “opinions” regulated to your living rooms and tax exempt churches.

  • Me

    i see a few folks are on here screaming the sky is falling w/o even reading the facts.

    1st… the supreme court only ruled that the STATE must RECOGNIZE same sex marriages, NOT that churches have to PERFORM same sex marriages.
    2nd… the supreme court is not forcing anyone to get married, so you are still free to PRACTICE what YOU preach.
    3rd… the supreme court only ruled on the law of the land, not the morals of the people, so you can go on hating whoever you please if that’s what your creator tells you to do.
    4th… there are racists in every group of people (including the black community) who hate blacks. just like nobody is fighting to get y’all to quit hating gay folks, nobody’s fighting racists to quit hating black folks. the fight for justice is the fight for equal rights regardless of how you feel about your neighbor or how your neighbor feels about you.

    give your blood pressure a break.

    • Robin

      Me, you just got let’em hear themselves. Just let’em go. Literally. Let’em go. lol!

    • noirluv45

      “1st… the supreme court only ruled that the STATE must RECOGNIZE same sex marriages, NOT that churches have to PERFORM same sex marriages.”

      Yet. There’s coming a time when pastors will be mandated to perform such “marriages” in the near future or the pastor will risk jail time. The LGBT movement will not stop until everyone pledges allegiance to them and their beliefs.

    • Why do people think that? I’m not being sarcastic, I’m really wondering. Pastors aren’t forced to marry straight couples they don’t want to marry. Some denominations even have pre-marital counseling and you have to belong to the church if you want to get married in it. So, I’m just wondering why people think pastors suddenly stop having a say in weddings they officiate.

    • noirluv45

      Alaia, the LGBT community is so powerful, and their agenda, in my opinion, is to strong-arm everyone into believing their lifestyle is okay. I believe the government will eventually use the churches tax exempt status against them. If I’m wrong, then I’ll retract my opinion, but I don’t think I am. Read my comment to “Me.” JMO.

    • Me

      that wouldn’t happen w/o another supreme court ruling & i highly doubt that scotus would rule on who churches marry since that is governed by belief & not by law. to this day churches turn away unmarried folks wanting to baptize their kids, they turn away divorced folks wanting to take communion, they turn away people from other religions who don’t convert before getting married, etc. unless the constitution gets amended, the gov’t will continue to allow churches to practice what they choose. so long as a church is not preventing folks from having a justice of peace officiate their marriage, they won’t be breaking any laws by telling gay couples that they don’t practice gay unions in their religion b/c they believe it’s a sin.

    • noirluv45

      Me, this government does what it wants, and with pressure from the LGBT community and their lobbyists, mark my word – it’s coming. Also, I’ve been to church all my life, and I’ve never been to one that turned away those groups of people you mentioned. I’m sure there are some that do, and even though I don’t believe churches should turn away anyone, each church determines what they will morally accept based on its convictions.

    • Me

      my cousin got turned away from 7th day & jehovah’s witness churches a few yrs ago when my godson was born b/c she was’t married to her boyfriend at that time. i used to be part of a black catholic church that denied divorcees communion every sunday (i know this b/c i used to fellowhip w/them after church every sunday & they would discuss it). i know from sunday school that a lot of christian religious require both partners to be members of the church, which in the catholic church means going through a full adult curriculum to conversion & in a lot of protestant churches means becoming saved and paid members before they will marry you. i speak from real life experiences of my own churches and from visiting churches that i had been invited to over the yrs. a lot of churches have very strict requirements before they’ll marry you. from what i’ve learned, the ones who don’t follow those requirements are the exception, not the norm & usually that’s just b/c they’re such a small church that they can’t afford to turn away the money like bigger churches within their religion do.

    • noirluv45

      Me, I respect your experiences. I was just saying that those weren’t my experiences. From my experiences, churches I’ve belonged to will only marry people who have been counseled by the pastor, and they cannot be unequally yoked. As previously stated, each church has a right to make whatever judgment call they deem necessary. Churches are supposed to have a moral standards, and whether or not I agree with a particular churches standard, they have a right to follow it. I still believe in the near future that churches are going to be forced to marry LGBT couples. I could be wrong, and if I am, so be it.

    • Me

      i understand where you’re coming from. i think we would all get farther in life if we didn’t take an all or nothing stance on everything. i agree that churches should always be allowed to practice what they believe as long as they aren’t standing in the way of anyone making a living, taking care of their families, and keeping themselves safe & healthy. if conservatives weren’t coming out guns blazing about the gay sin all the time though, it would be easier to reach a political compromise that satisfies both sides.

    • noirluv45

      Agreed! Regardless of how I feel about a person’s particular lifestyle (unless it was illegal), I would never mistreat them or accept anyone else’s mistreatment of them. I think a person claiming to be a Christian should follow Christ’s example. He embraced people, but he informed them of their sins. It was up to the person to believe and turn away from their sins or continue on the wrong path. People will turn away from confessed Christians when they don’t show love, and that’s where I believe many conservatives fail. They can disagree with the lifestyle, but they are supposed to love the person. JMO.

    • Ann Gomez

      Just because I don’t agree dosent mean I hate gay folk, the way I feel is same I feel about abortions, adultures, thieves and people who sleep around. I just don’t think its right, and this is going to normalize unnatural behavior…

    • Me

      i find that hard to believe considering abortions are legal in this country, sleeping around is legal in this country, and even adultery is legal in this country (but can only be used in divorce settlements as leverage). you lived with all of those laws, but the one to send you overseas claiming the end of days is near & trying to recruit other christians to do the same is gay marriage rights. doesn’t sound like you feel the same about it as any other sin that goes on in this country.

    • Ann Gomez

      Don’t tell me how I feel, all thosee things may be legal but I don’t see them be upheld as postive values. Like I said before all religious folk should leave and we can see what will happen to a nation ran by fools. We’ll watch and see if God will come and handel the twisted and non believers. From across the globe, Like I said why do you care if a mass exdous actually happens. You guys will be left to fly your liberal agenda with no interference.

    • Me

      i’m not telling you how you feel. i’m just saying you seem to contradict yourself about feeling the same about all sins. do you think australia is free from sin/sinners? is that why you chose to go there? wouldn’t god come down on the entire planet for all sins, not just the u.s.? are you going to australia b/c you think you’ll be safe from his wrath there?

    • Ann Gomez

      As long as their a few good souls he won’t come to the aera, have u not read your bible. Like I said I rather move to Australia or some place in Africa. For me I’m not happy about the government sending money to isreal and a slew of other things.if I don’t go to Australia I probably settle some place in Africa. Like I said, I just want to see what would happen if all the wicked and twisted fools stay in the same place.

    • Me

      and what you’re saying is that b/c scotus passed this law there are no good souls in the u.s.? or that the u.s. has more condemned souls than australia or africa? or that wicked folks don’t travel too?

    • Ann Gomez

      If the majority are good there won’t be any need for worrying, like I said before if the mass exdous happens you guys should be happy. There would be no more nay Sayers…

    • Me

      i don’t have a problem w/nay sayers. that’s why i like this country. everybody’s free to believe whatever they choose. good luck in australia though. i doubt it’ll be the utopia you think it is based on its history, but maybe you know something that the rest of us don’t.

    • Ann Gomez

      Thank you, and in the next few years I see America ending up like Greece. And I will have fled this decaying nation and will be settled some place in Africa or Australia living comfortably. So good luck to you!

    • Ann Gomez

      He’s supposed to target isolated sin hot spots…

    • Me

      um. now i know i’ve never read that in the bible. care to share the scripture passage that says that?